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Dual Mass Fly Wheel Vs Aftermarket Single Mass Fly 1 year, 8 months ago #591

Got a GU Patrol 3.0lt CRD - and I looks like we are heading toward a clutch replacement. Found out that the 3.0lt Patrols have a DMF - turning the replacement into a $3.5K exersise. Just wondering if there is any feed back on the merits of changing to a Single Mass Fly Wheel, or cupcakeing it up and retaining the OE Dual Mass.........
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Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel Vs Aftermarket Single Mass Fly 1 year, 8 months ago #599

found the below info.
most people that use their 4wd will do some mods, so from the below info, the single set-up is the best all-round and more suitable for future inprovements/mods.

The dual mass systems are designed to transmit less engine vibration to the driveline, and give a better more car like driving experience. They also reduce some of the jarring and stress on the transmission and remainder of the drivetrain. They work fine as long as the engine remains unmodified and the vehicle is not used/abused beyond manufacturers recommendations.

As soon as you start to increase the engine power over stock, or load the vehicle beyond design parameters, you run into problems. Dual mass flywheels are tuned systems and must be matched to the engine torque curve, engine resonant characteristics, vehicle load curves (including axle ratio/tire size calculations). They work by having a set of springs inserted between two rotating masses (thus dual mass). The springs are sized to soak up some of the resonant vibration from the diesel engine under load conditions. A dual mass fly wheel generally also contains an over torque friction release, so if it gets suddenly overloaded, rather than damage the springs, it slips. This works fine as a safety valve, but if it does it much it burns up. In short, overloaded they burn up and the springs get destroyed and they are worse than if it were a single mass FW.

The single mass part WILL tend to transmit more engine pulse (vibration) tot he drivetrain, and will seem a bit rougher. But it is straight forward to design a single mass flywheel and clutch package for pretty much any engine torque curve and vehicle loading combo you can come up with. Drives more like a TRUCK, but has much better reliability at extreme use levels.
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Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel Vs Aftermarket Single Mass Fly 1 year, 8 months ago #617

Totally understanding what you are saying. The research I've done since posting I have found on the forums is that for every person who has installed one with only minor vibration issues that they are happy to live with - there are others whom wish they'd never done it. My greatest concern is that the mechanics that I've spoken to are saying at best can cause driven line issues/faults at worst cracked crank shaft, and with the only family vehicle we have - thats something we can't afford

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