V8’s no more!
The 1VD-FTV V8 power plant is one that outback travellers and 4WDers have become attached to, especially considering it has two turbos bolted to the side as well (in 200 Series guise). This has been a staple within the Australian motoring scene for the past 12 years, providing the power to cover long distances of any condition easily, and the capacity to tow 3.5-tonne vans without straining.
A couple of weeks ago we revealed some new ‘artist impressions’ of the 300 Series – https://mr4x4.com.au/300-series-landcruiser-getting-closer/ and now unfortunately reports online seem to have confirmed that Toyota won’t be placing the V8 in the next incarnation of its LandCruiser model. The question then, is what will be in it? With Toyota surrendering to the pressure of the industry, it seems almost certain that it will release the 300 Series with a V6 turbo-diesel and V6 turbo-petrol.
Toyota has previously stated that they intend by 2025 to have a hybrid option available in every model so while it may not be an option at the initial release, expect a hybrid LandCruiser in the near future. Numbers wise, going from V8 to a V6 looks like a great thing with Toyota already having access to a twin turbocharged V6 that produces 310kW of power and 600Nm of torque. Although, traditional V8 buyers will say it’s all to do with capacity and how stressed the engine is providing that power, with the reliability questioned.
Does removing the V8 spell the end of LandCruisers dominance off-road? Or is it a positive with Toyota showing it’s ready to develop the newest LandCruiser for the market while hopefully keeping its impressive 4WDing and towing ability?
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Gossip is not as reval!
I could not agree more with the last sentence of the second last paragraph.
This is a very backward step Toyota, now sit back and watch your sales figures fall.
What would the economy figures be?? If the power figures stack up, people want to know the economy figures, as the 200 series is a great towing vehicle for caravans, boats and horse floats.
So where is the engine revealed in that story?
Will this new engine apply to 70 series toyotas, if it does – not a wise move
It wasn’t until 2016 that Toyota finally got the 1VD right – if you overlook the alternator being where it can easily be drowned and the starter being where it’s a 6 hour R&R job. Let’s hope that it does a better job with the V6 diesel.
There shouldn’t be a problem with the V6 petrol because Toyota still knows how to make a decent petrol engine.
They will seriously lose a lot of customers to this change and they’ll also lose the reign as King Of the Road in the 4×4 class………..sorry Toyota but it’s a big no from me. You can’t decrease engine size and aim for the same power outputs without costing longevity and reliability…. Think a heart transplant of a 5 year old into the body of an overweight 50 year old bloke, it’s going to work a lot harder and will fail sooner. It’s simple physics and you’ve shot yourselves in the foot with this decision especially when your rivals over at Nissan are continuing to gain market share with the big V8 petrol Patrol. Silly move Toyota, very silly move indeed.
I really dont think that your stupid pig headed attitude would concern anyone. Especially a successful concern like Toyota.
It will stay King. You over opinionated fools are ignored.
Totally disagree as the landcruisers before the V8 was introduced were a fantastic engine and are very sought after even today. Toyota will bring a new engine and it will be very good then all the initial shock will be forgotten.
Toyota, a dollar short and a day late as always when it comes to engines. The Prado needs a V6 diesel option, not the Landcruiser, whose premium position would be better maintained with a more powerful V8.
The last of the V8 Landcruisers will be very popular.
Always had Landies but bought a Patrol TiL with the V8 petrol and am as happy as a seagull with a chip .
Smooth , sonorous , torque just of idle , every safety and drivers aid there is and many $ saved over a Landie
Vive la Patrol I’m sold.
What on earth were you thinking Toyota.
You know the old saying of ‘you only had one job and…’, well, insert dunce hat here for Toyota.
One thing I can thank you for though, its that I’ll get a great re-sale value on my current 200 Series Turbo V8 diesel when I am ready to sell it! (that’s the only positive I can see out of this).
Disappointed to be honest.
Towing is the only thing it’s good for, the other short comings out weight it’s practicality,as a serious 4wd
Story headline is false news, no reveal of engine replacement at all, just mere speculative journalism
Come on guys. Don’t give us a headline like this then continue the diatribe rumour mill garbage.
I expect more of you!
“providing the power to cover long distances of any condition easily, and the capacity to tow 3.5-tonne vans without straining”
Wow, rose coloured glasses much?
First off you don’t need “power” to cover long distances .
Secondly I wouldn’t say a vehicle can tow it’s maximum capacity “without straining” considering in this case that there is roughly only 400kg of payload left available once you are at that point.
While they are good trucks, they aren’t the be all and end all.
They are very expensive relics of a time when displacement was the answer to engineer’s problems and emissions control was not the known issue it is now.
The right way to go,all the knockers will be back.Other brands have had V6 diesels that are just as powerful,and way more economical than the V8 in the cruiser,and just as good if not better at towing.If the new cruiser follows the Discovery 4 with electronic air suspension,even just on the rear,that will improve towing markedly.It also needs a good 8 speed auto to catch up with the competition as well.Remeber when the V8 first arrived many knocked it,but it has sold very well.
The new 300 will no doubt be a winner.
Spot on Steve.
Ask anyone who regularly has to work on the current V8 Diesel engines, and they will tell you what a poorly designed piece of rubbish they are. Dropping this engine from the Toyota range will be seen by many as a positive move and, depending on how good the replacement is, may actually bring Toyota into the current century. It has a lot of catching up to do though – Toyota diesel engine technology is many years behind the Europeans.
I doubt an engine change will make one difference to sales, especially when its the only engine option available… people buy them for the badge on them anyway, because they still have this false notion that Toyota is the only brand that equates to reliability
Let me assure you, as a former 2x 200S owner, the V8 diesel is very easy to become unattached from.
I’d go as far as to say, good riddance.
That engine is to Toyota what the Edsel was to Ford.
It might have looked like a winner on paper, but will stand as the one that Toyota should have known better and fractured its reputation for engineering. But then that is also true of the latest HiLux diesels too.
Dust ingression, injector failure by 150k, low mounted turbos, terminal coking up, outlandish parts prices and a design where any routine maintenance is counted in hours rather than minutes.
It should have been a winner but was a dud. Just ask the mining industry and local govt who aren’t buying them.
The LR 3 litre V6 Ford diesel had the same outputs but had to work harder. The Toyota was a lazy engine ripe for future performance upgrades.
200S sold and will still sell in large numbers here for the caravan and horse towers because it’s has achieved such status. It’s seen as the ‘safe bet’ even though it isn’t if you keep one over 90,000km.
And while it is a very capable off roader, if that’s what you want to do with a $85-$125k vehicle, there are better all round choices than this.
Fed up with all of the Toyota costs and miserable engine longevity, we bought a Patrol Y62.
It is a stunningly awesome vehicle and outperforms the 200 in every respect bar fuel consumption around town.
But with their price differentials and TCO, we’ll still be ahead financially after 12 years of owning The Big Nissan than the Toyota.
And loving it!
Like any change, non-turbo to turbo, live to IFS, lose of offroad ability, too many electronics, ect ect, everyone will complain and then go and buy it while raving, after the purchase, just how good it is.
I drive a V6 turbo diesel grand Cherokee and it has more than enough grunt to effortlessly tow my 2.6 tonne van @ 100 kph @15.8 LITRES /100 kms.
Although the current 200 Series look fantastic and are great for towing “legal” sized loads, I’ll just stick with my 2006 100 Series Cruiser thanks. With slight engine and exhaust modifications it now produces more grunt than a “standard” 200 Series. It might not have all the luxuries of the current 200 Series but it’s still pretty damn good. With regular maintenance and attention to body work and interior, it is in excellent condition. It’s not afraid of the water and can go virtually anywhere with its modified suspension. Unless I win the lotto, in which case I’ll buy a Yankee Pickup, I’ll have this 100 Series for a long time to come.
Ii think when the new v8 nissan titan hits australia there will be a big shake up in the large 4×4 market look out toyota
Well that’s good to know all the details of the new engine in this great reveal.
Now we have to filter “fake news” from the 4×4 world too.
Spot on
And the big plus with the Jeep is the economy !. Where the Toyota V8 Landcruiser gets around 12L/100klm, the V6 diesel Jeep returns around 8L/100 !!!.
Bring on the Toyota Tundra – but no V6 thanks
Toyota will be opening the market for their competitors to edge them off the top of the buyer list and replace them with the American imports i.e. Ram, Titan and GMC.
I’m with you Bruce, I also have the 2006 100 and love it to death. Can I ask what mods did you do to the engine and exhaust?
Hi Mark, You are saying there are better alternatives for an off roader. What vehicle would you suggest for a budget of $ 40k to $ 50k. Reliability, Economy & comfort are important to me. I am not going to be doing very hard core off roading. Some of the vehicles I considered are Suzuki Jimny, Suzuki Grand Vitara, Isuzu MUX or Kia Sorrento. Please advice. Thanks.
I am happy with my standard Prado Land Cruiser, but if I had the money would opt for this Beauty, but all very reliable…
Mr 4×4 lies and wastes our time with fake headlines and then expects us to trust them. Bull____
“New Toyota LandCruiser 300 Series engine revealed”
Where?????? I cant find where it says what the new engine will be??
Nissan has had such a bad reputation with engines in the past such as the 3lt time bomb , Toyota will still remain KING….
Hi Bruce, I also have a 2002 100 series and it’s great. I only use it to tow a small boat but would be interested to hear what modifications you made to give it more power and also the cost.
Toyota are going to have to come up with a pretty special Landcruiser for Australia with their next model if the adds on television for the new 4.5t tow capacity Ram 1500 are anything to go by. And the Ram is cheaper.
I love Landcruiser’s and have owned a 40, 60, 80, 100 & 200 series but now I own a Ram. Towing a 4t Van now and fuel consumption averaged at 19 litres per 100 Km on our last 16,000 km trip. Couldn’t ever get that from any of my Cruiser’s. Sorry Toyota!!! you’ve lost me.
What ever the engine is, let’s hope they bolt a decent transmission to it.
Read up the specs Pete will kill most especially mitsi’s the motor aint no relo to the fours
well mine is putting out 900 newton metres
I was believing you then you mention Y62 you just lost creditability there is a reason why they are so cheap go think.
land rover, jeep and nissan real beasts last for decades.
Landies the auto electricians bread and butter. Why do Nissan slot the 5 ltr cummins V8 Diesel in the US?
300 series LC, no way, not coming soon,
Was going to upgrade to the new 300S. I’ll stick to my V8 Touareg then.
I am with you Mark, I love my Y62, but the majority of Ausies , buy whatever Toyota sells them
yeah its just rehash of all the rumours that have been spinning for weeks now, crud click bait article
‘@Hank – yeah cause there is no Toyota Tax.
Would take a Y62 over a LC200 ANY day of the week.
Haha, King huh? Yep, King of the grenades! The 1VD is just 2x the grenade that the 3.0L Nissan was!
Anyone feel this might be a marketing ploy! What a great way to sell the old 200’s!
…that is great, until they break down 🙂
Not sure what issue you have with the 200 series transmission Cam but my 2013 model is the smoothest shifting auto I’ve ever experienced, barely feel it shift even towing a 2.7 t van. I will say it’s lockup programming isn’t perfect but this issue has a number of solutions available, both electronic and transmission based that improves it out of sight.
I knew it, before getting to bottom on the email I guessed it was a Nissan Vs Toyota jam up. Are the Patrols still crap on fuel and troubled by corrosion as many Nissans have been for years?
Lets hope that Toyota dont cheap out on the dpf system again add blue is a must
Alternator at top of engine bay a must
V6 diesel in prado would also be a great idea
But no more cheaping out or you will loose your to spot for sure !
Smaller engine and no decrease in price I bet. The 70 series will be next. The American imports will do well now and the 200 series will be well sort after. Toyota have shoot them self in the foot when comes to sales.
Toyota is heading Nissan way we are not a petrol/hybrid EV country -Looser Toyota winner Yanks with the introduction of their tanks will win
So true. I have a 2019VX, L.c Tourer and at 3.7 ton the Twin turbo will pull anything. Love it!!!
I’m with you Neil, yep we still have to tow them and that’s where our fuel consumption goes up. You can’t beat the longevity of the Cruiser
I have owned seven lab cruisers, and the TD V8 has been faultless and epic …often towing a 3.5 T boat long distances … etc
If Toyota actually stop doing TD V8 Landcruiser.. they have lost at least one very loyal customer no question.
The v6 should be in the prado and leave the v8 alone
Buy a Hilux and drop an LS in it and you can tow your patrol,boat, van, and land cruiser behind it…LS the world
Apparently V6s have been in the UAE for years
Need a 4500kg towing RAM to tow 3500kg and have a bit of payload. The RAM 1500 has a low GCM.
Thats the go mate, so when you rev it up all the oil goes to the top end carn’t get back into the sump.. Oil serge happens then ya LS is U/S.. concept good, engine choice bad..