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2017 LandCruiser 70 Series: 7 things we love (and 1 we hate)

2017 LandCruiser 70 Series
2017 LandCruiser 70 Series

Toyota’s 2017  LandCruiser  70 Series is here, and it’s had some important and interesting updates to keep it both viable and and usable in the real world.

2017 LandCruiser 70 Series
2017 LandCruiser 70 Series

It’s Toyota’s accidental halo car, a tough old workhorse that so many aspire to own. It has a reputation that most carmakers would do disguisting things for. But, like Superman, it has a weakness. Kryptonite for this Tojo, it’s Achilles’ heel, if you will, is regulations: A big capacity diesel, live axles and great clearance means it never scores well in crashes, pedestrian safety and emissions. But now, all of that has changed … here are the seven things we love, and one that we hate about the new, 2017 LandCruiser 70 Series.

The gearing

One thing I loathed most about the 70 Series LandCruiser was the way the V8 seemed to scream in fitful pain along the way. The 1VD is a fantastic 4X4 engine, but it’s much happier at 1,500 rpm, rather than over 2,500.

2017 LandCruiser 70 Series
2017 LandCruiser 70 Series

Well, Toyota has solved the problem. I thought it needed a sixth gear, which would be great, but increasing 5th gear ratio has transformed the way the car drives on the highway. An engine with 430Nm available between from 1,200rpm, all the way up to 3,200 rpm, means you can power through five gears just fine.

The Engine

Toyota made a great engine even greater. piezo-electric injectors mean that fuel is atomised better, injections are more precise, and the combustions are more efficient (cleaner and more powerful). There is less emissions, torque is more readily available, and the engine uses less fuel in the process. Plus, this motor does seem a little smoother, to me …

It’s smoother

The new 2017 LandCruiser 70 Series has a solid 700mm wading depth.

… But that could be a few things. The chassis, designed in 1985, based on a 1950’s design, and updated to suit the V8 in 2007, has had a little birthday. Chassis rails are wider and taller, and there’s an extra cross-member underneath (and three existing ones have been redesigned). Body panel thicknesses have been tweaked, and the bonnet is also a new design. This makes it more safe, but also noticably quieter and less rough. It’s still relatively rough compared to other 4WDs, but it is better.

It’s more fuel efficient

Another thing that used to get my goat about the LandCruiser was the fuel efficiency. Yes, there’s stacks of power, and that V8 is awesome, but the fuel consumption figures were a little annoying. It’s a bit better, now. your saving up to 1.2 litre per hundred kilometres now, but I reckon the savings would be even bigger when you’re cruising at (or slightly above) the highway limit.

It has traction aids

2016 Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series GXL interior
2017 Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series Traction Control

Luddites, emerge from under the bridge, throw rocks and make strange, gutteral grunts. The LandCruiser has gone electronic with traction control (we’ve tested it off-road, and it’s pretty good), stability control and Hill Start Assist (also helps out well). There’s also Brake Assist and Brake Force Distribution.

They can be turned off

If the nanny modes are getting in your grille and making things tricky, you can go back to basics and turn everything off. Sometimes (rarely), things like traction control and stability control can brake wheels and cut power unnecessarily when you’re off-road, and there is nothing more annoying. And anyway, you’ve still got good ol’ fashioned lockers for your front and rear differentials (either standard, or a $1,500 option, depending on spec level) for the ultimate in off-road traction.

That wheel track

2016 Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series Troop Carrier GXL
2017 Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series Troop Carrier GXL

All of this development is great, but one big thing that Toyota didn’t fix is that abhorrently different wheel track difference. When they fitted the V8, the front axle was widened to squeeze the two banks of cylinders in. But, they didn’t tweak the back to suit, meaning there is a whopping 100mm (or four inches, in the old money).

Toyota know about it, and their research indicated that some were complaining about it. But, other things came first. Sometimes, it’s really noticable, no doubt. It won’t get you bogged all the time, or cause the car to flip on it’s lid at a moment’s notice, but the dynamics do feel strange sometimes, and your often pushing through extra mud or sand when you’re offroading. If it was corrected, the car would undoubtedly be more stable. Anyway, lucky you’ve got that V8, but I still find it quite annoying.

It’s still for sale.

Yes, while I’m still a bit dirty about that rear diff, I am quite happy that the LandCruiser hasn’t gone that that big open-cut mine in the sky, with his old sparring partners, the Nissan Y61 Patrol and Land Rover Defender. It could have been sent to the automotive guillotine, but Toyota care too much about the 70 Series LandCruiser to let that happen. It’s part of their identity, and an integral part of the company’s development and reputation, both in Australia and around the rest of the world. Here’s hoping it sticks around for a long time.

2016 Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series Range - Single Cab Chassis GXL (right), Wagon GXL (left), Troop Carrier GXL and Double Cab Chassis GXL (rear)
2017 Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series Range – Single Cab Chassis GXL (right), Wagon GXL (left), Troop Carrier GXL and Double Cab Chassis GXL (rear)

Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series Prices


Body styleGradePrice#



Troop carrier

Double   cab-chassisWorkMate$64,990

Single     cab-chassis


Just a note on the prices: those who complain about the 70 series LandCruiser being overpriced, maybe you’re right, but I think you’re wrong. Sure, you can buy a top-spec dual cab ute that drives, feels and cossets better, but what you’re paying for with this old dinosaur is the things you don’t see: Chassis, diffs, bearings, clutches, engines, steering and suspension all built for durability. It’s built to drag, tow and haul, and do it for many years. Only a few truly need something like a 70 Series LandCruiser, but for those people, there really isn’t anything that compares or competes (any more).


Maximum power151kW @ 3400rpm
Maximum torque430Nm @ 1200-3200rpm
Fuel systemCommon-rail diesel fuel injection
IntercoolerAir to air
Bore x Stroke (mm)86.0 x 96.0


– Combined (L/100km)10.7
– Urban (L/100km)12.9
– Extra urban (L/100km)9.4


Air-conditioning $2,761 (including fit)
Premium paint $550
Diff locks $1500 (single cab GX, double cab WorkMate)


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  • Congrats to Toyota for providing a basic “Farm Truck” that has reached iconic status amongst Aussie 4wders. The V8 cruisers have become one of the most modified 4wds in Australia, It’s not hard to spend in excess the value of the vehicle again on accessories.

  • Fuel consumtion 18/20 highway and 16/18 driving miss daisey
    Clutch slips on hills unloaded
    Factory original no chips or exhaust
    Fuel tests done on 1000klm trips

  • So I grew up in the passenger seat of a 75 series, thought it was normal to sleep in my own bed every night. Over the years I bought all the affordable cars, suzuki, hilux, isuzu, ford, and the ‘ultimate’ TD42 patrol…. It wasn’t until christmas 17 when I found myself riding shotgun in the v8 cruiser ute. I was hooked, so I went out bought myself this ‘horrible’ fuel guzzler of a vehicle with a narrower rear track and lack of cup holder manual shifting behemoth. HAHAHAHA! I’ve just finished dead towing a mates ranger almost the full length of the Gibb river and got his family home. Fuel consumption has stayed on 12.9 litres whilst his ranger was pulling 14 something without towing anything. It’s funny how the ranger owners don’t tell you, how it’s been back to the dealer three times and only has one rear main leak. It’s even funnier when you hit boost and your ranger owning mate cringes because he thinks thats when the intercooler pipe blows off. Free road side assist? what you mean you anticipate your ranger to break down. Ancap ratings are for people who plan to crash, cup holders are for people who want to drink and drive. Automatics are for those who wish to be a passenger behind the wheel when they’re on the dirt. And ‘torque’ numbers are purely for the glossy brochures. Aircon? pretty sure the vehicle has a blistering cold aircon last time I looked.

  • Would it be possible to add additional seats into a 70 series gxl landcruiser?
    My partner and I both like this car but need a 7 seater

  • Have a late 2012 vdj79 GX. Put kings suspension throughout it, long range tank (283ltr in total) gives over 2000 klm range, water tank, steel tray, exhaust upgrade, Tuff 5 poster bar scrub rails and steps lightforce driving lights dual batteries HF & UHF catch can, extra ryco fuel filter 2 spares, slide out awning and tow bar. Perfect for getting away in for a couple of oldies. Has not missed a beat. A higher top gear would be good. Had Turbo 6 & Patrols as well. First Landcruiser was an FJ40 barn doors. Actually pulled stumps with it. Tough as.

  • As many have said if you dont want reliabilty dont buy one , I do 110,000klm a year and only have had to replace consumables like brake pads oil filters etc.
    Dont have a problem with the different track widths , just learn to drive it.

  • Don’t complain about the cost of a Toyota ute.
    You want air? Pay the extra!
    My 75 series cab/chassis which came with ‘air’ saved my life in its early years when T-boned by a drunk driver who hit me doing 100kph!
    It suffered so little damage it was fixed to be better than new specs, signed off by an engineer & I still drive it now.
    I gave it a total rebuild for its 15th birthday & its having another now for its 30th birthday. Around 2000 it got a replacement engine of the then new 1HT for better capacity.
    All genuine replacement parts all its life. Still cheaper than buying a new ute.
    The only consideration to its age is I don’t do much 4×4 nowadays but that due to my incapacities, not the vehicle’s.

  • I have owned 5 land cruisers since 1984. The 6 cylinder diesel I traded in for a V8 in 2015 had 165,000Kms with nothing done to the motor or drivetrain, sold it to my neighbour who has now done 320,000. He is a fencing contractor so it doesn’t get an easy life, still nothing replaced except air conditioner compressor. I now have the V8 for my farm vehicle. Its definitely more comfortable, more leg room, especially when you’re 6 foot 3. It will haul strainer posts, spray tanks, 1 tonne fertiliser bags, with no trouble. The initial cost of a land cruiser is high, but not too far ahead of the 4 cylinder 4wd’s. Bought the 4.2 for $35,000 in 1984 sold it for $8000 in 2015. True Land cruisers don’t have all the interior creature comforts but that’s not why people buy them. If you have not driven a V8 land cruiser you really don’t know how much better they are than anything else around. You don’t need all the aftermarket chips, 3″ exhausts ,etc. Put your money into your superannuation fund so you can still afford a Land cruiser when you’re 60.

  • After 14 years on a mine site the “built to last” theory is BS I have to say, the hilux’s performed better, more reliable and far less break downs, more comfortable, better handling etc. And trust me, they copped a flogging!!!

    Even the 2017 V8’s were all guzzling oil like that 40 year old mower (2 stroke) in your grandmother’s shed. The quality of the interior is quite frankly pathetic, the hinge on the centre console is bending plastic (NOT EVEN A HINGE) and it just snaps and falls off…

    Often the cars would get ABS faults or engine lights. The injectors seize themselves into the aluminium head. The dash would just fall apart under vibrations. Not being able to turn ABS off in the mud was absolutely terrifying. (You just keep sliding on loose gravel or mud (with the ABS pump going crazy) toward traffic or 600 tonnes worth of truck at busy intersection) Uncomfortable as hell, rough ride and terrible handling AND TERRIBLE safety ratings!!!!!!!

    One MASSIVE FAIL, that no one seems to realise is the driver pedals are not inline with the driver seat (moved for the bigger transmission tunnel) this gives you a really sore back after a short period of driving because your feet are kicked to the side.

    If your tall, the seats are designed for a 5 8” Japanese man so the head rest pushes on your upper shoulders, the manual window winder digs into your knee. The cab is not even remotely spacious.

    Bottom line is, Toyota have not innovated or more importantly refined anything in this space. They are selling a product on 40 year old “Toyota reliable” reputation alone, and put zero refinement into an old product. Options on what to buy are limited for a solid axle car, but the reality is, Toyota reliability isn’t a selling point when the competition has come leaps and bounds over the last 30 years. People are catching on. And mupputs still pay these extremely high prices.

    Their CV’s still snap like plastic under load, the diffs are weak and explode fairly easily when subjected to any trauma or even at random while going down the highway… ask the old grey nomads…

    I honestly don’t know how people can justify these as the top gun (when compared to the price). (This space is so open to disruption). When it comes to towing options, it’s clear to me, why the newer Jeep Grand Cherokee is outselling Land cruisers, patrols, hilux and prado 2 to 1. And the reason it’s a good car is because it’s a very high tech Italian diesel power house, (apparently an amazing 8 speed auto), with a Mercedes body (nice work Jeep). It has every bell and whistle for safety, comfort and towing, and a 5 star safety rating, annnnd you can pick it up for 60k – compared to the 200 series base model for like 80?

    I would say to people to consider a hilux, but the new ones all blew up their transfer case (10 of them) in 6 months. And the engine has no power. So, that option is out the window. But wait, it’s way over priced as well.

    Honestly, if I was in the market for a new car of this type I wouldn’t know what to get. But I sure as hell wouldn’t pay a premium for these buckets. And yes, the skinny rear diff track is a total joke and just goes to show that Toyota literally don’t give a s***.

    Did I mention “The car for the Australian outback” doesn’t even have a filter for the air con evaporator in the cab. So a bit of driving on dirt roads, you find the aircon flow stops. And by the time you get around to stripping the dash to attempt an awkward clean out with a hose, the aluminium has corroded resulting in an aircon leak, not to mention the evaporator fins are so closely assembled it’s blocked for good regardless…. I’m sorry, but this is ABSOLUTE JUNK!!! (For the price)

    • Are you sure you covered everything. Now you know why a lot of people will not buy X mine vehicles. They just Flog the guts out of them.

    • Had a 76 series GXL 2012 from new, has never used oil. Tow a dual axle caravan on sealed road and tracks and been in some extreme 4WD conditions through out W.A with the van and never snapped any CV’s or anything else for that matter. been a landcruiser driver for years and never had any of the problems you talk about. I am 185cm and a 100kg, I don’t have trouble fitting in the rig. No point in giving a review on a mine use vehicle, they are put through many conditions that no normal 4wd will encounter because they all get driven like they have been stolen, can be driven in extremely salty environments for their entire life on the mine site. I now a lot of grey nomads that own 70 series cruises and they haven’t had the troubles you talk of, but have heard rumors from other people that don’t own Landcruisers of these issues, go figure hey!!!!!

      I don’t knock other types of 4WDS, every body makes their own vehicle choices, but it seems you may have an axe to grind if you are calling all the owners mupputs and attacking everything about this style of vehicle. Horses for courses I say.

      If what your saying is relevant, why is the re-sale so high compered to other 4WDS? and why are they such a sort after vehicle.
      I think the proof of the pudding is how this type of vehicle is in such high demand, if they were all full of problems as you suggest this would not be the case.

  • My 76series sept 2017 wagon workmate came standard with air con and cruiser, clearly those mouthin off are as stupid as the crap they comment anyone who has been in to the dealership would know this is standard now as a quick search on google will only give you old specs not sure why but it does , best thing I did was get my wagon , stick ya dual cab 2litres on the kerb at the building site or put the dog in the back and Go along the beach that’s all there good for even with remap , exhaust , Snorkle , thermo fan , new radiator the d.40 I owned in 2014 was rubbish after all the money on the trick stuff springs shocks ecu work still couldn’t pull my camper to coral bay without heating up to the top anything over 35c it’ can only support its self can’t stop when ya need to lucky the trailer has elec brakes , I spent 70+ on a d40 and it broke from the chassis to the wiring harness in the engine bay , those who spend the time and money on a dual cab know u can’t get nothin for 67k like a 70 series straight off the shelf tough as f$&@k buy your dual cab for 50k see how far u get with 26k of upgrades Put a caravan or camper loaded up for 3 weeks in the outback on the back !!! hope you own a sat phone …… don’t talk rubbish about something you’ve never even considered buying ,

  • Jealousy makes you nasty.
    I love my v8 and when I sell this one I’ll get another one.
    If you don’t like it, don’t buy it, have a nice day.

  • Andy & Lois Qld.

    Laughing at the soft roader latte set. In 2015 we sold our 2007 76 series V8 wagon for $40,000 (that’s a cost of just over $20,000 for 8 years) We towed our 3.5Tonne off road van to the tip of the Cape and never put a spanner on the Cruiser except for breaking an axle pulling our silly son out who bogged his 25 year old cruiser to the floor on the river bank at Surat after rain. ( But we got him out). Our 70 Series Dual cab bought new in 2015 is the best thing since sliced bread. It had shiny alloy wheels , we took them off and sold them and put on real steel wheels. We know the Japs don’t make good springs, took them off and put 500 Kg Dobinsons on. Best car we have ever owned it just lopes along in 5th gear at 90 K/m hour at around 2000 rpm at 6.85 tonne CVM. Never misses a beat, if you tried some of the hills we did in Tasmania with our 3.5 tonne van on you would shit yourself, would I want to come down some of those mountains in an Auto, not on your life! lock her into first and come down a 7 or 8 k/m descent without touching the brakes, try that in your auto Ranger or Navara. If you have not owned or driven one you are not in any position to comment, and probably you can’t afford 1. We are in our late 60’s and expect this to last us our towing years out. We could have bought 2 Rangers or Navaras for the price and the Cruiser would outlast the combined ages of both and still be worth $20,000. Would I buy another, in a heart-beat – except we won’t need to!! PS, Whoever commented that they won’t sell many obviously drives round with their eyes shut, the salesman who sold us ours sold 3 that day, and we had to wait 6 weeks for it to come from Japan. The Dealership we bought from has never advertised them and can’t keep up with them!
    PPS If cup holders are a problem contact the Dept of the Interior – throw away the rubbish plastic one and fit the DOI Console and their T shape overhead console and you have got all the storage you need.

  • Why would anyone who consider himself/herself, themselves a 4wd driver using a machine with an automatic gearbox? Keep sniffing!!!! Hahahaha and keep away from the life of real men.
    Keep living in these great cities of yours and driving on bitumen, then please have an automatic, not a manual.
    Toyota knows what they are doing. It’s for these guys who wear Yakkas not suit and ties.

  • LAUGHING HARD at the idiots in their auto Rangers and Bt50s that ‘have more torque than the Cruiser’. BULLS$#$T. I also own a 2016 Hilux (my town car), with ‘more torque than the cruiser’……hahaha that sounds good until you hook up 3 ton behind it. The poor underpowered cruiser has it for breakfast under these conditions! Love seeing the Rangers up here with the aircon unable to cope with the heat, and bits falling ff them. My last Cruiser was 20 when I sold it for 16K. When your Ranger is 20 it will be worth $16.50. Note I NEVER up grade engine or exhaust….but do upgrade suspension, not a name brand, an old bloke I know who knows cruisers….

  • The only criticism of these iconic trucks is they are an absolute pig on the road driven around unladen, but then that’s not their purpose. They are a workhorse and buck like a bronco empty. Load them up to GVM or GCM towing and they’re more civilised and competent than anything else sold in AU wearing the badge of “ute”.

    Who cares if the Ranger, BT50, Hilux, Navara, Amarok, DMax all have more torque (on paper). NONE of these have 430Nm for a solid 2000rpm from a way down low 1200rpm.

    And for the record, NONE of these can actually tow 3500kg safely AND be fully loaded to GVM. Only the LC70’s can do this.

    Ranger is the biggest con of the lot, only being able to legally tow 2800kg at GVM.

    I drive a LC78 wagon empty every day and it’s a pig, but heck I still love it’s simplicity and the fact that when I want 4WD, I just grab that stubby stick and pull back. No buttons, no electrics.

    Only genuine complaint is the 100mm narrower rear track. Seriously f$^s up on and off road handling dynamics, but heck, it’s an easy fix if it bothers that much.

  • Drive thro NSW country and all you will see are 70’s on the farms and in town…the wives drive 200’s and prado’s….in the outback touring i’ve seen 70’s 100’s 200’s and wall to wall prados. All of the other soft roaders including hiluxs have been on the bitumen or very close to town. My 07 Hilux was a good strong car but nothing compared to my ’14 dual cab cruiser, it would eat those soft roaders and spit them out. I feel safe in the bush knowing that my cruiser will get me back NOT just get in there like a jeep

  • It’s very simple really….
    All TORQUE, or all TALK!!!
    Max torque across the rev range or an inflated torque figure that peaks for 5 seconds with turbo screaming and your rubber belt that drives the valves hanging on for dear life.
    Get a clue, for those who have no understanding of how torque applies.
    You’re an easy target for Nm figures on a shiny brochure and an absolutely ridiculous commercial of a ute spinning around with a ball tied of each end.

    Science of truck!! What a joke. The commercial says it all and reflects who buys em.
    And on that note a truck actually has full floating rear axles with the hub bearings taking the load. Only a toy has load bearing axles.

    Buy what suits your needs and be happy and enjoy your decision but NEVER EVER try to compare the non comparable, as you’re only making fools of yourselves ..

  • I just sold my last single cab cruiser of which I brought new 13 years ago for 58k.
    I have towed a stump grinder weighing 3400kg inc trailer everyday.
    I serviced it myself and spent NO other money on it other than consumables.
    I traded it in last month on a new cruiser and got $32k trade in for it!
    Try getting that back on your ranger If it manages to stand the test of 13 years.
    Seriously unless you can afford to drive one don’t knock it. Just go and buy you tin can family wagon and enjoy it cos you will get nothing back for it.
    Ps the new ones s$%@ hot and worth every cent ?

  • Owned 5 landcruiser 75 to 79 series. What I like about landcruiser is when something is giving you a problem it gives you a problem for two years before it will actually let you dowm. Very rare that a cruiser will leave you stranded. Can overload them and they do not break. They are a bit basic with no aircon but resale value is always so much better than anything else that you can buy. The 79 series has been slightly defficient in the past due to pollution regs and definitely needed an exhaust fitted to stop them snuffing when trying to get out of a bog. Hopefully this is not the case with the new one which I am seriously considering. Have only bought four year old ones previously due to thier cost. So long as you beef up the rear suspension they are happy to pull way more than they should. I have pulled landcruiser wagons on heavy duty trailers at 120 on sweeping bends with no discomfort once the rear suspension was changed to tough dog heavy duty. The only thing about cruisers is they are heavy and sink in the mud. But I will take a cruiser any day on a rugged hill climb where your heart is pounding, as with the slow crawl and power they kock ass. Have seen plenty of others that will piss all over me in the mud but nothing will beat it in hill climbing.

  • Just got back from a 8 month Australian outback trip and had an absolute ball. To be perfectly honest i saw a hell of a lot of Ford rangers, VW Anaroks, Mitsubishi Tritons, Nissan Navaras etc and only saw one other Landcruiser other than mine, funny that AYE!

  • Great reading the comments, I reckon they look good.
    Definitely should have more options standard though, can’t believe all the people saying you don’t need auto, air con, cup holders, haha of course you don’t, but it’s sure nice to have them though.
    Toyota autos also do downshift when going downhill when you touch the brakes – since 2002 5 speed 100 series.
    Not too bad if you need a ute and a heavy duty one at that, but I wouldn’t consider it a good tourer, better off with a 200 series, cut it into a ute if you need one, or get a ram etc.

  • Iam disappointed that
    They haven’t installed
    Auto and havnt up the
    Ponys on these babys
    Because any up grades
    Cost money i do under stand.


  • I towed a broken down Ranger with off road van with my 2016 landcruiser 70 series, then went and strained a fence with it, then put a sprayer unit on the back at 1.5 tonne, towing a trailer at 4.5 tonne across 100,000 acre cattle station. Then went to pub. From memory the ranger had drum brakes on the back. My cruisers have all had 4 wheel discs since about 1986. Cruiser is 100% made in Japan. So, u can stick the number of cup holders and vanity mirrors, In your toys. Cruiser is a truck, not a very golf in drag

  • Hi fellas, I’M laughing with all those comments and also wondering why the pros and cons, but in the end what matters is the truly thing about what you want, what you need and what you use. Since kid I had Toyotas at home, now I’m 34 with more that 8 land cruisers passing by my hands. I restore them and even the most beaten one stays tough, functional and unconditional. I’ve diesel and gasoline versions and every one of them are good.
    Never to be compared with new city or recreational vehicles of course. But if you want to travel/work far and return home everyday for years without worrying and enjoying, land cruisers are the best choice.
    Also about the extras I would say that there is such a pleasure to enjoy the weather as it comes, you don’t need your mother placenta to drive, if you love living accept the earth as it is; cold? Get a jacket, hot? Drink some water, open the windows, breath, live.
    In all my 70 cruisers I never had power steering, air conditioning, power windows and so on because when you are in the middle of nowhere you truly appreciate that you can fix your car with basic tools and anywhere. That’s the purpose of this vehicles.
    And for all those that can complaint or doesn’t understand anything but an only reason, just let it be, what ever works for everyone.

  • I live in the gulf country in north qld. I cover an area from capeyork to NT. I put around 120000 to 150000 km each year and of this at least 70% off road. During wet season and post wet season roads barely exist. I have tried just about every decent 4wd on the market some regretfully which barely lasted 6 months before falling apart. All vehicals had complete suspension upgrades, bullbars etc from new. With about 14 employees over 20 years the only vehicles that lasted the 2 to 3 years and get good tradeins where 16 landcruiser Utes. I have not had one major fault from memory which hurt the wallet. For those who think their 4 cylinder has the same power, torque, Kw’s or what ever as a 4.2 turbo or V8 landcruiser that is BS. I have owned 2 full dingo mini diggers and most accessories which weighs over 4 tonne on a tandem trailer for over 20 years. I can tell you all rangers, Hiluxs, tritons, colorardos etc don’t even come close to the actual pulling power or control over heavy loads that the V8’s has not even close, some to the point of dangerous. These small 4wds cannot handle the rough roads up this way. Our local council recently tried to save money and purchased 4 different brand 4 cylinder 4wds instead of all hiluxs and landcruiser. Most couldn’t handle to roads and fell apart. They now buy dual cab landcruisers and hiluxs for all road camp vehicals. I don’t have any love affaires with toyota as I think they are over priced and burn a shit load of diesel but they are in a league of their own. Comparing a landcruiser to a 4 cylinder small framed 4wd is radiculous like comparing a mini and a falcon. If you can’t afford a toyota landcruiser you probably don’t need one. I currently own a v8 ute, 2 x turbo 6 cruisers Utes(10 & 12yrs old), hilux 2015 4wd, hilux 2wd and a 200 series wagon. Most people that hate and bag landcruisers generally have never owned one. They are bought not for comfort and good feul economy but to tow heavy loads easily and cop a hammering on shitty dirt road or cross country work. I have just clocked up 146000 km on my 2015 hilux and traded it on a new glx V8 ute. The hilux Didn’t like the roads up here but lasted long enough to be traded so went back to a cruiser. These are my finding after around 2000000km in northern Aust. It hurts to pay toyota $89000 for the new ute but after owning 4 previous V8’s I know what I am getting into and hope the new upgrades help sooth the financial payne. I have owned nissan navaras, tritons, rodeos and patrols. All didn’t cut the mustard. Not close. These are facts with no bias.

  • after owning no less than 17 4x4s in my life. The VDJ79 Dual Cab gxl will be my next due for delivery in march.
    extra from the dealer, air, dual battery and the towbar, as these component can effect the structural integrity and or electrical components, on the road $80.000.00 Let these extras be covered by Toyota. Everything else from lights to lift kit will be source elsewhere. Has anyone been on anvdj79r that has been enhanced,well I have and there you go $80,000.00 spent. Id say is needs an S.S. or G.T. badge on it.
    I drove an early model for a while at work, didn’t own it, but liked it..but tricked up, you really have to have s go in one.
    17 4bys 9 navarras- lj50-rocky-subaru-disco- musso- and currently Ranger 3.2 for which I have spent 69k in total and am trading in for 28k with 95km on own the vdj 79r fire breathing demon

  • Funny thing is i just sold my old single cab to get a dualcab ute test drove a few utes still went back to the cruiser simple and i know it will get me out of anything

  • I own a current duel cab and have no problems with any of the stuff you all want to whinge about so it is probably better that you stick to your soft roaders as you obviously don’t need and a real truck

  • Has anyone tricked up a 2016 model an been Happy with it? Re mapping, chipping, exhausting etc etc? Test drove a stock one an Seemed real doee as stock!

  • If I had the money to buy one, I would certainly have the money to get air con fitted, you people whinge too much – it’s not a Toorak truck, with a holder for your skinny latte and a kennel for your chihuahua, it’s a tough work horse and will likely take you anywhere you want to go, and get you home again. As for no auto, don’t you know how to drive a manual – three pedals too much for you?

    All depends on what you want to do, where you want to go, and how much you want to pay. I have an adequate 4wd for my purposes (mainly touring), it goes well and has taken me to some great places. If I was a serious off reader, Toyota would be one of my first choices (Landcruiser not Hilux).

  • I can’t afford a new 79 ute,
    But I’m just buying my 3rd pre-owned one,
    Got my first HZJ75 20 years ago, currently have a HZJ79 now for a HD-EFT79.
    Nothing else much interests me.

  • Ranger? Nice ute but seriously no comparison.
    Auto trans? Seriously go and buy a handbag.
    Air con- they don’t come as standard figment because some fleet/mines customers do not permit it being fitted.
    For those looking at Nm and kw ratings- does any other vehicle make that kind of torque at 1200 rpm….. engine will make 200kw and 650mn plus with a tune if your bent on power.
    The rear track is a shame but not half the issue it’s made out to be. If you didn’t know it existed you wouldn’t even pick up on it
    Check out the resale value. You won’t lose 10 grand a year on this one.
    Most buyers are business based and claim the gst back $6000 plus straight away.
    Would be nice to see a better centre console and one piece snorkel.

  • All these wankers that want an aaaaaaaaaaaaaautomatic. Cant you get your hand off the phone for long enough to change gears? The auto in a vehicle makes you brain dead, ever followed behind some one driving an auto they are forever stabbing the brake as they have little or no engine braking, and as they have little to do they are forever just looking out the window or fiddling with the radio etc. My opinion but very annoying.

  • I think alot of people are missing the whole point of the 70 series when they complain about the extra cost for A/C and no auto option. The primary market for these vehicles don’t care about A/C, pointless when you’ve got the windows open so you can yell at the dogs or have a rifle hanging out so you can cull feral animals. Likewise autos are an unnessary complication.
    The rear axle issue is a joke, but Toyota won’t change it unless they’re forced to.

  • Why has Toyota removed the twin tanks on the utes? Reduced range and the ability to use the rear tank first and get the weight off from the back overhang. Hope they have improved the leaf spring quality? if not the 130lt tank on the back will only make the Toyota rear sag worse.

  • I aspire to own on 76 wagon. Currently drive a heavily modified older Hilux, it will drive rings around all the new crop of dual cabs off road, won’t hold a candle to a 76 though. Anyone comparing a 76 to any of the soft current crop of dual cabs is kidding themselves.

  • Drive a landcruiser 70 in the outback especially on corrugated roads and wave to all the 4cyl soft 4×4’s with the living daylights rattled and cracked out of them! it’s not about bloody cup holders or stereos, it’s about getting there in those conditions with the vehicle going through less punishment than a Ranger etc down George St. Sydney!

  • This is the last of its breed. If you want to complain about lack of features and no auto then you are quite simply kidding yourself if you could live with one of these day-to-day. For those who like mechanical simplicity it is the last true option – I tip my hat to Toyota for leaving it alone! Work out a price for a Ranger with 180L of fuel capacity, front and rear diff locks and a 1tonne payload and get back to me – nothing else on the market compares…

  • Another Toyota rip-off. Bought a BT50 GT dual cab. Much better tourer and value. AND civilised. You guys at Toyota are truly hilarious. It is a joke…right?

  • I really wanted to buy the new cruiser as I had to replace my 100 serius. I wanted to stay with the live axle , but with the price was up there, but only having 1 cup holder n lack of creature comforts the narrow rear axle n adding the price of the air conditioning it just got to much n lost a sale.

  • I read but have never commented – till now.

    … Wow , What a bunch of wowsers ! (flame suit on)

    How many of the people who have commented here have actually shelled out their own hard earned for a NEW Heavy Duty workhorse? … and
    Need it to deliver on load and harsh environment?
    Need to tow heavy on / off road?
    Need also to be a viable proposition in 5 / 10 years +++ after purchase?
    Need to sell it with 500,000 kms on the clock?

    DON’T for one deluded moment be thinking that the 70 series vehicles are in any way the same as the hilux, ranger, bt50, Tata, Great Wall, Colorado, Isuzu etc ….

    Yes, I’ m talking about the plumbers, electricians, builders, + other small business etc that run around the city & land development sites with their cross over type utes (new hilux ‘s included) or the family two in one ute – if that’s your niche, then more power to you – there is a huge range of mediocre ‘off road’ ponies to choose from.

    As a Heavy Duty truck nothing comes in close – get behind the wheel, load it up, get into the rough stuff, and live with the truck for a while.

    As for what’s included and what’s not for the price, then seriously negotiate with mr Toyota – the prices here are definately list price ; any wally can get a better deal – BUT you will pay more than than any of the softer d/cab’s …

    Horses for courses.
    If you grumble about the price, then you genuinely don’t need to carry the weight.
    If you grumble about the drive line then you genuinely don’t spend much time punishing or in isolation.
    If you grumble about the interior inclusions then your priorities are upside down.
    If you grumble that the power is the same as your adequate little 4 cyl. Or 5 cyl. then you really don’t use or understand power & torque.
    If in 5 years from new its still in show room condition then it’s a waste.
    If you don’t load / tow on your GVM / GTM then why buy it.
    Simple cost benefit analysis.

    No other manufacturer makes a vehicle to compete with it and last time I checked it’s a democratic capitalist society – if you don’t like it don’t buy it.

    BUT never compare it using the family or light duty formula to justify your soft ‘rigs’ – this ain’t in the same class !

    (declaring that I actually don’t own one – have driven a few though; my garage over the past 27 years has had many makes including d/cabs and wagons – the closest comparable work horse to the 70 series in my experience was my F250 XLT V8 t/diesel auto but wasn’t any where the bush truck the 70 is !)

  • Do they still drag there arse with a half tonne load?
    Reckon there worth about 35g max.
    It’s the same with houses, you can build any
    old slap up joint and there will be a market for it, maybe a smaller market but
    never the less a market. Ever herd of any car maker not able to sell a car?
    If there is a sizable enough number of knuckle-heads out there, with too much money
    and not much up top, they’ll sell a few, and given the minuscule amount of
    tech and style input over the last 30 years, no excuse for the ask price.

  • Everyone can leave negative comments about the cruiser, but… until you own one, you will never know. I have a new dual cab and couldn’t be happier. But do agree, extra for air conditioning!!! Still a joke.

  • I do love the vehicle but I still cannot believe that in this day and age no aircon as standard! Perhaps the designers and company leaders at Toyota should go without aircon in their offices and see if they would rethink this error in design. This is a 4×4, used in rural and outback, what the hell are they thinking making such a basic commodity like aircon an extra? Please!!

  • isn’t it a pity they didn’t give the 70 series full time 4×4 and an auto option, I guess then the price would match the 200 series and there would be no purpose in having the 70 series.

  • It’s funny how zombies, drone or robots will stick with a brand no matter how many times that brand slaps them in the face. All because of a V8 engine…my 2.5l diesel pathfinder has more torque (less kW but who cares about kW in a diesel) and drinks less. Toyota certainly know how to brainwash…
    Oh and carefull it doesn’t flip over too…

  • Don’t forget the useless decision to add the DPF option which is known for causing issues in trucks. Why not go the ad blue route instead?

  • better fuel economy and higher 5th gear is great. If Toyota fixed rear axle width to same as front you wouldn’t need traction aids. Diff locks is all you need. People who rely on fancy traction aids besides diff locks need to learn how to drive a 4wd properly…. and yeh the aircon should be standard.

  • Well Im pleased that the cruiser has remained “reasonably” simple, but really …….. no ac without paying extra ?.Are we back in 1980 ? Little creature comforts can be added without spoiling the dream. Its a shame when a car maker sets its prices on a vehicles reputation rather than a fair profit margin. Really how many made vs the lack of re engineering needed each year. They could afford to add these things and or drop the price & smash the market. We’ve bought thousands of these vehicles, keep us loyal with competitive pricing.

  • I had a 89 cruiser wish I never got rid of her she went every where I wanted to go and some got a 07 hilux replaced engine 10 grand later still not running properly

  • Let me guess one cup holder still, are more cup holders an optional extra like air con? This stuff should be standard.
    Toyota is taking the piss

  • Love reading all those that bag price of air-con, lack of features, refinement and change over time etc. I grew up as a kid when the 75 series was released and always dreamt of owning a Cruiser Ute. They are truly the vehicle that will always bring you home safe, no matter where you end up.

    Now my 9 year old son aims to inherit mine.

  • And they still insist on ‘lap’ belts in the rear centre seat instead of three point. With three kids, this was the sole reason I refused to consider them when buying

  • Aircon cost 13% of the cost of my Jimny which has aircon as standard. On a vehicle that’s about $70 000 on road is not good enough.

  • Very surprised there has been no increase in power or torque. Hard to believe the 2.8 litre 4 cylinder hilux is putting out more torque than the V8 cruiser.

    • One more time for the IDIOTS…
      AC is not standard because they are delivered first and foremost for the mining sector where it is not allowed in a lot of instances.

      For the other IDIOTS that think their 4 and 5cyl torque outputs are superior, put your pudding puller on a dyno and be prepared to cover your eyes in dissapointment.
      Or you’re welcome to hook my 3.45T boat to it, tow it around the country then count the chassis cracks and countless other failures that through experience are inevitable.
      And if your poor overworked, under engined toy actually survives, see how much you get as a trade in. JOKE..

      There isn’t a time when you toy truck drivers don’t look up at a nice Cruiser and secretly wish you were sitting up here and not way down there.. Go on just admit it!

      Stop looking for stupid negatives to try and put down a vehicle which is so obviously superior for WHAT IT WAS BUILT FOR!!!!

      More expensive? Yes
      Less options? Yes
      But if you need one you’ll buy one because no other ute can do it.
      And your resale MORE than covers more initial outlay..
      Do the sums.

      Your jealousy is so transparent….and embarrassing going by the comments on this thread.
      So are your 3M taped on bonnet and body kits.. Laughable guys..

      Even your dogs want to jump over onto my tray at the traffic lights.

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